Quote:Neither the Thomist first cause argument nor the Kalam one does more than prove God as a first cause.Great now show me an apologist that doesn't use it as such
Quote:To get from there to the God of the Bible or of the Koran requires additional steps.Great now show us someone who doesn't use the Kalam as a method for arguing for their particular god
Quote:If you know of anyone claiming that a first cause argument shows, for example, that the Trinity is true or that Jesus is the savior, please post a link or other source.Try the fact that every apologist after bringing up the Kalam will then argue for their particular god
But that's pure coincidence i'm sure

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–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM