RE: Creationism
August 11, 2020 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2020 at 11:35 am by Mister Agenda.)
(August 10, 2020 at 10:29 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(August 10, 2020 at 9:42 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Apologists from Kalam to Craig beg to differ.
Neither the Thomist first cause argument nor the Kalam one does more than prove God as a first cause.
To get from there to the God of the Bible or of the Koran requires additional steps.
If you know of anyone claiming that a first cause argument shows, for example, that the Trinity is true or that Jesus is the savior, please post a link or other source.
How does the Kalam get you to any God at all? It doesn't establish that a first cause has to be a God. Some sort of eternal state of affairs that allows for the universe to exist does not have to have consciousness, thought, intent, omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, or a goal.
PS: Sorry Bel, looks like you addressed this in a later post.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.