(August 10, 2020 at 10:29 pm)Belacqua Wrote: If you know of anyone claiming that a first cause argument shows, for example, that the Trinity is true or that Jesus is the savior, please post a link or other source.
(August 11, 2020 at 2:44 am)Belacqua Wrote: Maybe somebody should type out what the first cause argument actually says.
Here is a thumbnail version of the Aristotelian/Thomist version (not Kalam).
Can we safely say that Saint Thomas Aquinas was one such individual who argued precisely that or are you going to suggest that the Summa Theologica was arguing for deism?
Quote:First, the word "cause" is misleading.
As much as I love the redefinition game it should be noted that Thomas Aquinas argued for both a temporal sequence and logical primacy. As for Aristotle, the phrase "unmoved mover" pretty much shrieks of a temporal sequence.
Typing out what the Argument From First Cause "actually" says would be a damned sight easier if there weren't dozens of different ones to pick from. Little matter since they all founder on our complete ignorance regarding plucking a universe from nothing. From that fatal flaw they either degenerate into unsupported argumentation or complete non sequitur.
