RE: Creationism
August 11, 2020 at 11:48 pm
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2020 at 11:51 pm by GrandizerII.)
(August 11, 2020 at 11:13 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: As much as I love the redefinition game it should be noted that Thomas Aquinas argued for both a temporal sequence and logical primacy. As for Aristotle, the phrase "unmoved mover" pretty much shrieks of a temporal sequence.
Of course they considered temporal sequencing, but:
Based on my reading (and it's been a while so might not be remembering it right), Thomas Aquinas accepted that you couldn't use logic to prove the universe had a temporal beginning, but he nevertheless believed that it did (by revelation). There's a reason WLC doesn't like using Aquinas' Ways to argue for God.
And Aristotle clearly argued that the universe is eternal.
First cause in this case should be understood as not temporal first cause, but logical.