RE: Creationism
August 13, 2020 at 1:32 am
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2020 at 1:44 am by Pat Mustard.)
(August 10, 2020 at 5:22 pm)Belacqua Wrote: No one claims that a first cause argument gets you to the God of the Bible.
And I'm the Queen of Sheba. You should be embarrassed for telling such a blatant lie.
(August 12, 2020 at 8:51 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(August 12, 2020 at 8:42 pm)brewer Wrote: Flawed because he inserted god into the argument where a god was not needed for the premise to be understood. He inserted god because he had an agenda to attempt to justify the existence of god to the non religious.
A justification for believers was not necessary. (I think good ol Tom indicated this himself)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmologic...rarguments
Or are you saying that Thomas did not insert god as the contingent/cause?
Using the word "insert" isn't fair here. Aquinas' arguments lead to the conclusion that the ground of existence exists, and he believed that is equivalent to the God that he believed in. But he didn't shoehorn God in, it's concluded, not asserted.
It was concluded based on no evidence, therefore it was aserted. There were plenty of people in Aquinas' day who pinged him for that.
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