RE: Creationism
August 18, 2020 at 6:33 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2020 at 6:49 am by Belacqua.)
(August 18, 2020 at 5:28 am)Grandizer Wrote: That's the thing. Us atheists are top experts at debunking these silly arguments from Tommy by just having a quick glance at the arguments and without proper background reading. Been there, done that.
Check these guys out on Quora:
https://www.quora.com/What-do-atheists-a...nce-of-God
As someone who is somewhat more familiar with the underlying reasoning than before, it's surprising just how many atheists misunderstand these arguments and not even realize that they do.
People accuse Thomas of beginning with the conclusion, but I think way too many of them begin with a conclusion of their own: that theology must be so stupid that anyone can understand it immediately, and any high school kid can debunk it. So when someone says "well, actually..." it barely computes.
There are two ways to get (conveniently) from my house to Tokyo. I call these two ways the Two Ways.
1) The way of the bullet train.
You go to my city's train station, get a bullet train headed east, and ride until the recorded announcement says you're in Tokyo. You'll arrive at Tokyo Station, which is downtown.
2) The way of the airplane.
You go to the local airport, outside town, and get an airplane at a gate which says "Tokyo". It will arrive at Haneda, which is outside Tokyo.
These are summaries of the two ways in which you can go.
Now a-travelists will point out that the First Way has major problems. First, trains aren't made of bullets. That's impossible. Second, the description of the way doesn't include train times, ticket prices, etc. Clearly, the "proof" is incomplete.
The Second Way is worse, since it doesn't even contain proof that airplanes can fly! How can we know this?! Obviously going outside the proof itself is inconvenient for me.
And neither of them proves that Tokyo is real! Or that it's the capital of Japan, or that my favorite tailor is still in business or that girls still work in Kabukicho! How can I trust a summary of a way to do something if it doesn't even attempt to prove what it's not meant to prove!?