(October 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We don't have to decide any such thing. You keep talking about god as a given but it is not. Nobodies buying what you're selling.
Since when did natural disasters or pain or misery have anything at all to do with justice, and how can justice be offered by a nonexistent being? It isn't the dead that have any need for this crutch, as you've made so clear in this post, it's the living who miss them.
Perhaps you should have worked a little bit harder on loving yourself, cherishing yourself, etc. What some fairy tale is said to feel for you is an absurd way to value one's self. How, exactly, can you even claim this in the same breath as the claim that you deserve none of it? That's in the bible too isn't it. Doublespeak.
All you've described here is wishful thinking, and how does that square with all the nasty shit that came with it, that you defend day in and day out as the literal word? I cannot stand it when people claim that there is some justice to be had here. Again, where is the justice for those god is said to have killed? Where is the love for those he is said to abhor?
Justice is a place where people are no longer suffering for the consequences of sin and that place is God's kingdom. Please don't try to speak of my personal struggle as if "loving myself more" would have been enough, if that was all it took then I wouldn't need God, what I speak of is much deeper than that, perhaps a part of yourself that you've never seen, it's about my true nature, which cannot be repaired by positive thinking and a couple good deeds. My true nature can only be repaired by Jesus Christ who knows the best and the worst of me. It's understanding that my relationship with God has created an entirely different path for me that was otherwise closed and created a nature of humilty which is needed to experience the transforming power of God.
I believe you have Christians in your personal life, have you ever heard a testimony? Have you ever heard what the Lord has done for someone? You may scoff at my testimony because you don't know me, but when you see how God has influenced the people in your life, touched them deeply and restored something precious, it may hold a different weight.
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6