(October 29, 2011 at 10:44 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's a place is it? Can I get an address, just to check our bases? My true nature needs no repair. So I suppose that's not going to cut it for me. Why do your arguments consistently hinge on the bare assertion that I am broken? You'd have to demonstrate this as well as your god fix. It only complicates your claims. Why would I view your relationship with god as anything but an elaborate front for what you feel is self improvement, as defined (or as accepted as a definition for whatever reason) by yourself?
I view the personal testimony (such that it is) from the christians in my life with the same scrutiny I view yours. They all know it, I make no bones about it. This is hardly a different, or more persuasive argument than anything you've offered up to date.
Any conversation I have with the religiously minded in my life generally ends with "I don't know, you make a good point. I hadn't thought about it from that angle but honestly I still have faith, and that's enough" Fucking brilliant response. No excuses, no claims to knowledge which does not exist. No continuous assertions that the bible is the literal word (my wife doesn't swallow a word of the OT's history or miracles, nor does jesus need to be a physical person running around the countryside performing magic tricks for her faith to be workable and unassailable.) When I criticize your god, I'm defending hers.
I think you make your brokenness relatively clear. I believe lucent already addressed it in another thread. Your wife is christian I see and she doesn't believe in the old testament? ...
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." Hebrews 11:6