(September 30, 2020 at 9:55 am)arewethereyet Wrote:(September 30, 2020 at 9:21 am)Brian37 Wrote: Um no, Biden won. Not in an "Obama v Mitt" "Go right ahead" moment, no.
But between Trump acting like a petulant asshole childish brat, and Chris constantly admonishing him, Biden won by simply letting the fucker hang himself.
But in a general sense, I have to agree, nobody wins in either party when the process get's turned into an episode of Jerry Springer or WWE.
But this to me hurt Trump far more. And that to me is a good thing for us.
There aren't enough people who haven't made up their minds who they are voting for. At this point, the debates are just for show. The election is just over a month away and if Trump hasn't turned a person off by now then having a screaming tantrum, like we've come to expect, isn't going to accomplish anything.
I think coved has changed things. It sucks that a pandemic has to be the thing that wakes people up. But under non pandemic conditions, I think your are correct. The bottom line for humans regardless, is that we pretty much don't care about politics until it affects our wallets. This pandemic has affected supporters of both parties and in all zip codes.
Trump, has turned plenty, maybe not enough, but plenty of swing voters against him, and even many republicans, just not in congress.
Cindy McCain has endorsed Biden. Republicans Joe Walsh, John Kasich, long time republicans Joe Scarborough and former RNC chair Michael Steele also see the insanity Trump is causing.
If you want to argue there is a solid base that will never leave the fuckface, I agree. But there are cracks in Trump's Jerry Springer act, and I think it is increasingly wearing thin.