Trump vs Biden debate

[Secular Elf]

There was no clear winner, but there was a clear loser.


Us.

I am afraid that you are right. We in America are in a dangerous time right now. Our republic, our democratic institutions have been under attack from the Right Wing for a very long time. Trump in office is their wet dream come true. He has no intentions of leaving office because he is very entrenched in his own insane vision of who he is and his own propaganda. Win or lose, Cheeto-head is going to dig in. There is going to be a Constitutional crisis. That is just as sure as the Earth revolves around the Sun. We The People may have to take matters in our own hands to save our country. And we better had be prepared to do that.

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There was no clear winner, but there was a clear loser.


Us.

Nope. I won by exercising my right as a free citizen in a free country to watch 90 minutes of Three Stooges shorts.

Boru

You better enjoy that while it lasts, Boru.

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Um no, Biden won. Not in an "Obama v Mitt" "Go right ahead" moment, no.

But between Trump acting like a petulant asshole childish brat, and Chris constantly admonishing him, Biden won by simply letting the fucker hang himself. 

But in a general sense, I have to agree, nobody wins in either party when the process get's turned into an episode of Jerry Springer or WWE. 

But this to me hurt Trump far more. And that to me is a good thing for us.

There aren't enough people who haven't made up their minds who they are voting for.  At this point, the debates are just for show.  The election is just over a month away and if Trump hasn't turned a person off by now then having a screaming tantrum, like we've come to expect, isn't going to accomplish anything.

It was either on PBS News Hour or Third Hour of Today this morning that one of the reporters stated that 11% of voters are undecided. And I am sitting here thinking, what the hell are you so damn undecided about? The man is a self-important, arrogant, treasonous piece of trash. He is not going to change. America is on a fast train to dictatorship. It makes me question that they have a damn brain!

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Trumpanizes will see what they want to see and literally make up what they saw. The reality is Trump came across as a schoolyard bully and unpresedential. These networks hosting these debates need to grow a sack and start cutting mics. Or are they too scared of Trumpies getting mad at them? Also they need to do fact checks during the debate. Kind of like how the hosts on CSPAN do with callers.

That's not true, it's a comfortable lie that the american left tells themselves about the american right.  In reality, they know that he's using them just as well as he knows that they are using him.  They don't really live in an alternative reality making up what they see - they like what they see as-is, and all of the junk you bicker with them about is them flat out trolling you.  They know that too, they pride themselves on it.

They're not actually crazy, they're not delusional...they're something else, something worse, something that we refuse to name.  We'd rather believe that they were crazy, as americans and as their family,...because that would be better...than accepting them for what they are.

There are two names for the them: fascists and racists. The two usually go hand in hand.