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Trump vs Biden debate
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RE: Trump vs Biden debate
(September 30, 2020 at 9:49 am)Sal Wrote:
(September 30, 2020 at 9:16 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: No, if there is a match in shouting, then even if brain dead, the democracy still has a heart beat.   

The right wing might try to make the corpse of democracy twitch from time to time with strings all pulled with their hands, but they don’t care for the body to actually have any autonomous heart beat.   Just look at Putin’s russia. 

If tramp gets a second term, he will probably also get a third, in darkness.

Convince me.

I'm of the position that some minimal level of pluralism and non-partisanship is required for a democracy to function in elections. This "debate" didn't even have that tiny amount of decency in it.

I rolled my eyes when Trump derided Biden's son, which was the only time that I noticed he got Biden noticeably angry with this petulant bully.

If Trump wins, and I still think the asshole has a real chance, I predict a transparently fascist dictatorship by 2022, and civil war the same year that will be quickly over. Extermination. Afterwards the long night begins.
Convince you of what?

High partisanship makes democracy much less stable, but in itself it doesn’t prove democracy is dead, so long as partisanship is prevented from enabling party in power to use administrative or legislative power to completely forestall Future challenges to its power.

No doubt the republicans have been systematically trying to attain the position of being able to use administrative Or legislative power to completely forestall future challenges since 1994, and has redoubled their effort after Obama’s election, and then redoubled it again under trump.  As a result our democracy is in very poor health.  It may not even live very long.

But the fact that there is a shouting match means it does at the moment still have a pulse.

Look to russia or China, or Turkey, or Saudi Arabia to see how many people gets to shout back Twice when democracy is dead.
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Trump vs Biden debate - by WinterHold - September 30, 2020 at 3:51 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 3:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2020 at 4:06 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 4:16 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2020 at 4:24 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Secular Elf - September 30, 2020 at 12:46 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - September 30, 2020 at 5:18 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2020 at 5:35 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 7:33 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 9:16 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 9:49 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 2:28 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Brian37 - September 30, 2020 at 9:07 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2020 at 9:11 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2020 at 9:16 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2020 at 9:19 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Brian37 - September 30, 2020 at 9:21 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by arewethereyet - September 30, 2020 at 9:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Brian37 - September 30, 2020 at 11:05 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 30, 2020 at 12:51 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Secular Elf - September 30, 2020 at 12:57 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Foxaèr - September 30, 2020 at 10:19 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2020 at 10:52 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Grand Nudger - September 30, 2020 at 10:24 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - September 30, 2020 at 6:16 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 30, 2020 at 12:39 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by DeistPaladin - September 30, 2020 at 1:19 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 30, 2020 at 2:32 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Drich - September 30, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Divinity - September 30, 2020 at 1:54 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Brian37 - September 30, 2020 at 2:53 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 2:19 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 2:38 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 2:56 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Brian37 - September 30, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 2:57 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - September 30, 2020 at 3:07 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - September 30, 2020 at 6:47 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 7:15 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - September 30, 2020 at 10:20 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 11:08 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by GUBU - October 1, 2020 at 2:00 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 11:31 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - October 1, 2020 at 12:24 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Fake Messiah - October 1, 2020 at 12:30 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2020 at 12:44 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - October 1, 2020 at 12:57 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2020 at 12:59 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - October 1, 2020 at 1:04 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - October 1, 2020 at 1:19 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by GUBU - October 2, 2020 at 2:04 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - October 2, 2020 at 2:29 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by GUBU - October 2, 2020 at 8:33 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - October 1, 2020 at 2:11 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - September 30, 2020 at 7:23 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - September 30, 2020 at 7:46 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - September 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - September 30, 2020 at 10:41 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - September 30, 2020 at 11:15 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - September 30, 2020 at 11:43 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - September 30, 2020 at 11:54 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 12:00 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - October 1, 2020 at 12:33 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 12:47 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 11:26 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 1, 2020 at 5:37 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Angrboda - October 1, 2020 at 10:42 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - October 1, 2020 at 11:29 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - October 1, 2020 at 11:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 3:30 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 4:06 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Dingo - October 1, 2020 at 4:39 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 4:43 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 4:15 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 1, 2020 at 4:42 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 6:15 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 6:27 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 6:49 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 7:00 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Foxaèr - October 1, 2020 at 9:10 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - October 1, 2020 at 9:15 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 1, 2020 at 10:30 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Sal - October 2, 2020 at 3:55 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 1, 2020 at 11:55 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Rev. Rye - October 2, 2020 at 12:09 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 2, 2020 at 12:25 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 2, 2020 at 10:57 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - October 2, 2020 at 2:57 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Irreligious Atheist - October 2, 2020 at 5:20 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by onlinebiker - October 3, 2020 at 12:33 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 2, 2020 at 3:35 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 2, 2020 at 5:52 pm
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by Anomalocaris - October 3, 2020 at 12:27 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2020 at 12:20 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 3, 2020 at 12:35 am
RE: Trump vs Biden debate - by The Architect Of Fate - October 3, 2020 at 12:39 am

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