'Seeking' God

[tackattack]

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Who designs anything without resiliency built into it? Well someone who knows the outcome of course!

You walked into that CS.
Anyways I can't even keep track of the OP in all this.

I would also go so far to say as for the universe has the ‘appearance’ of design; scientists don’t generally say that the universe ‘is’ designed, mostly because it would be unprovable as it would exist prior to the creation of the Universe. The religious are far more openminded about the unexplainable and can postulate that God could have indeed done it. Do you have any subjective personal evidence for anything that is commonly accepted as a potential candidate for something that could have created the Universe or is it just dismissed out of lack of empirical testability?

Hey Tacky, long time no speak; hope you are well etc

If you are going to invoke that to validate the 'is' designed hypothesis. I will respectfully concede that it is logically possible. However I would also respectfully point out that the hypothesis should be that god designed the universe for black holes, not us. The universe is the best possible deisgn for black holes and black holes are where the vast majority of mass and energy resides that god painstainkingly created. Obviously it must be designed right! And because all but out poky corner is cut out for human life it definately proves it was designed and an omnisceint god would know that it would convince all of us, wouldn't he?

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I am, ty. Respectfully, no the hypothesis should be that God designed the universe. I never claimed it was all just for little old me. I'm sure when we find another race of aliens, if ever, that they'll have their version of a universe creator. If black holes were sentient, then they'd probably claim it was created for them. I just claim that it appears designed. Something from nothing and order from chaos, etc. are difficult concepts to reason especially with the selectivity and lack of livable area. Not that it's impossible, I know there are a few examples out there. As a human, it's a natural inclination that things are viewed from a spacially independant self perspective. If it was created the next logical question would be why
which is why a lot of people believe in a personal God, I think.