'Seeking' God

[salty]

I know that you're saying this because you really don't believe he's real. What happened between you and God? I remember you mentioning that Christianity is responsible for all kinds of terrible things...but did something happen to you personally that you attribute to straight to God?

I guess I just find it difficult to hate something I don't believe is real. I don't believe Apollo is real but I don't hate him or hearing of him. He's just made up so I merely shrug at his name. Now...I would hate him if someone I loved refused to get medical treatment because they thought that Apollo would heal them...then I'd have a reason to be disgusted...what's your reason for disgust with God (since you don't believe in him)?

Hey Salty (nice pic btw it looks a happy scene :-)) I think you misunderstand the atheist perspective. Atheists really do not hate god, that would be absurd (as you recognize). They may dislike the concept or description of the god proposed either in scripture or metaphysically or both. When communicating this in shorthand sometimes the atheist might refer to god (wrongly) in the second person, this is not to be mistaken for actually secretly believing that god exists and hating them, being angry etc. It's bit like saying you hate the idea of something, when strictly speaking it is not possible to hate ideas.

Ahh...very clear, thank you. I see. I didn't accept that Frankie secretly believes in God, but I wondered if something happened that he would think would be all God's fault...IF he were real. Some people do that, you know? They don't believe God is real, but if he was he'd be terrible for "this event" that happened in my life or in history...you get me? I just wanted to have more an understanding of what that was specifically.

Thanks Captain, that picture is definitely my favorite one from my wedding.

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OK, you clearly aren't getting this... I don't hate God! Are you fucking stupid?!

I hate God as much as I hate Sauron!!

Although, at least Sauron is quite cool

Captain explained it to me, just calm down Frankie.

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Genesis 7:11-24
King James Version (KJV)
 11In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

 12And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

 13In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

 14They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

 15And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

 16And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.

 17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

 18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

 19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

 20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

 21And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

 22All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

 23And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

 24And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.


And he turned lots wife to salt....... For looking behind her at the destruction of Soddom and Gomorrah.

I could go on but it's boring and a lie.

So the flood and the punishment for Lot's wife are two of the many reasons you...

1. don't believe in God
2. think..IF God was real he'd be terrible