RE: Presidential pardon
November 28, 2020 at 4:26 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2020 at 4:31 am by Anomalocaris.)
(November 26, 2020 at 12:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 26, 2020 at 1:09 am)Apollo Wrote: It’s an an old archaic, monarchic tradition that has no place in today’s world—it needs to go away.
Nonsense. The power to pardon is often the last possible act of mercy and justice. Naturally, the power gets abused - it’s not unique in that regard - but the notion that the guilty are sometimes let off isn’t a valid reason to close off the final avenue of righting a wrong done to people who should never have been convicted in the first place.
Boru
If the best guaranty of justice is due process, then to say the power of pardon is the last possible power of justice is to say justice is to be sought where it is least likely to be found.
What power of pardon is meant to enable is the recognition that the interest of the state is not necessarily always the same as the carriage of justice.
(November 26, 2020 at 3:23 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Trump will surely pardon all his cronies between now and January 20. While the presidential pardon can be a good thing, Trump will abuse the hell out of it. If he could resurrect Epstein, I am sure he'd be pardoned too.
Can you posthumously pardon someone? If so, I'm sure that's on his list.
All the more reason why trump and his clan must be made to suffer the full measure of the punishment trump has enabled his cronies to escape. To ensure this democratic republics any long term future Trump’s fate must be so terrible that its very horror overwhelms any appeal his cronies’ escape from justice might exert on future would be enablers of similar cronies and cronies enablers.
The fact that democrats are already talking about not pursuit trump is prove positive that this republic is so farshaken that even its very best is far from good enough to recognize what is needed to save it, much less actually save it.
