RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2020 at 2:18 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 11, 2020 at 12:28 pm)WinterHold Wrote:Quote:Sunni and Shia scholars generally believe that the Quran was written down in its entirety at the time of Muhammad's death.[citation needed] Muhammad's cousin Ibn Abbas describes the way in which the final version of the Quran was fixed: "the prophet recited the book before Gabriel every year in the month of Ramadan, and in the month in which he died he recited it before him twice."[18] It is believed that the term "reciting the Quran twice" means compiling all the Quranic revelations into a complete and final version. It is understood[citation needed] that toward the end of Muhammad's life a special act of revelation occurred in which a final and complete version of the Quran was created. The term 'recite', which is used here, is referring to the custom where a Quranic scholar recites the entire Quran from beginning to end a number of times before a senior scholar. According to this tradition the act of recital is being performed by Muhammad, with the angel Gabriel playing the role of superior authority.[19]
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This is refering to something else, WinterHold. The prophet did choose companions to write down the Qur'an whenever it was revealed to him. But the writings were scattered on all kinds of supports. It's impossible for you to establish the authenticity of the Qur'an based on these writings. On the other hand, we have many many Muslims, including children, who could recite the Qur'an verbatim. The perfect match between recitations is what proved -and still proves- the authenticity of the Qur'an, not these scattered writings. The real collection of the Qur'an started after the Battle of Yamama.
Oral transmission is the main advantage of Islam over christian texts, Christians have no authentic sayings of Jesus, no chain of narators ending with Jesus exists anywhere. So they have no way to defend the written book that exists today. And it's common knowledge today that the so called Q source is lost.
There is another strong proof why the hadiths are a must:
19:59 : But they were succeeded by generations who neglected prayer and followed their lusts and so will soon face the evil consequence
As you can see, even neglecting prayers - let alone not prayng at all- is condemned in Islam with strong words. As I told you before, there is no way to figure out how to pray, in detail, from the Qur'an.
What Muhammad's companions did was observing Muhammad pray then do and say the exact same things. Muhammad's sayings and moves in prayer are not in the Qur'an.
He prayed five times a day, this is not in the Qur'an. In particular, the noon prayer is not in the Qur'an anywhere, but everyone saw Muhammad regularly perform it.
Now comes the real problem with your understanding of hadiths : Do you think you understand the Qur'an better than Muhammad's companions, most of them highly proficient in Classical Arabic, and also astute military leaders ? ? Do you think you understand Muhammad's teachings better than the people who lived with him ? better than his own wife Aisha ? -because she reported many many hadiths too.