[Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.

[Apollo]

While there are various points of logical failures in the debate about god itself, Islam further has notions that add to it exponantially.  For example, the whole religion itself hinges on a very narrow narrative that Mo supposedly spoke to an angel in a cave.  That's it. That's the whole premise of Islam on which it further builds the quranic and hadith and everything else.

This narrative in itself is never really questions.  Kinda like virgin birth (or some other stupid shit-fact) in Christianity.  It's just taken on it face value and never really questioned the very possibility of it.

It's because taking this narrative at face value makes more sense than other explanations, the best explanation of everything Muhammad did is simply that his prophecy is genuine. It's unbelievable that modern historians of Islam concede that Muhammad was sincere, which really leaves one with two choices : either mental illness, something like motor seizures of temporal lobe epilepsy, the result of its spells are the Qur'an, or that the revelations really came from some agent outside of him.

The diagnosis of epilepsy is only defended within the circles of christian polemics. Orientalists like W. Montgomery Watt or Theodor Noldëke completely reject it.

Or he could be lying or it could be a combination of schizophrenia in part and lying.  But the "Outside agent" is not a possibility.  1400 years ago people thought that was a possibility and they accepted the story at face value but we can now concretely rule out that possibility based on our knowledge of the natural world and reality.

People who still insist have to first and foremost provide explanation as to how this "outside agent" can exist (what is he made of etc –– since for it to be able to interact with our reality it needs to be made up of the particles within the current standard model) and how such communication can occur (again, standard model, four forces of nature etc or else it can't interact with our reality).

The gist of the above is that we can't take something someone said and then try to fit into our reality but instead have to stay within the confines of our reality and natural world and then decide what is:

1. Possible
   
2. Not possible
   
3. We don't know if possible or not possible
   

The existence of any "outside agent" (angel, god, what have you) falls under the category of #2.  If you think it's rather #1 then please, by all means, explain away with relevant math and cosmic model.