RE: The Watchmaker: my fav argument
March 10, 2021 at 5:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2021 at 5:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
We decide between nature and poorly designed or constructed artifice every time we sift through stone age tools. It doesn't take any fallacious or circular reasoning.
It can be done, IDers are just bad at it.
Is that not also gods design..or are those just the constraints he's working with?
Did he have to make terrestrial hominids? Did he have to make a water world? Did he have to make it so that terrestrial hominids couldn't breathe underwater? Did he have to make it so that terrestrial hominids who couldn't breathe underwater still needed water? Did he have to make it so that those same hominids use a shared breathing/eating/drinking apparatus, thereby ensuring that some portion of us will die attempting to accomplish any one of these primary requirements for remaining alive (which are...also..either part of gods design... or not).
This is a good point to stop and ask which parts are designed and which aren't - these would be good criteria. They would also be demonstrations of that designers specific incompetence.
OFC, like before, there are all sorts of applications for a hostile meat grinder like our planet. Maybe you like grinding meat?
It can be done, IDers are just bad at it.
(March 10, 2021 at 5:19 pm)Belacqua Wrote: I think that idea is pretty much over now. We know that if the oceans die then people will, too.
Is that not also gods design..or are those just the constraints he's working with?
Did he have to make terrestrial hominids? Did he have to make a water world? Did he have to make it so that terrestrial hominids couldn't breathe underwater? Did he have to make it so that terrestrial hominids who couldn't breathe underwater still needed water? Did he have to make it so that those same hominids use a shared breathing/eating/drinking apparatus, thereby ensuring that some portion of us will die attempting to accomplish any one of these primary requirements for remaining alive (which are...also..either part of gods design... or not).
This is a good point to stop and ask which parts are designed and which aren't - these would be good criteria. They would also be demonstrations of that designers specific incompetence.
OFC, like before, there are all sorts of applications for a hostile meat grinder like our planet. Maybe you like grinding meat?
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