(June 23, 2021 at 8:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What you mean to say is that there are ways an interested criminal party might try to stymy any and every attempt to trace a gun, not that there aren't ways to do so. Due to the toothless nature of the entire atf, also a product of interested criminal parties, the main use for the kind of data they're referring to is to see how guns move between states. If a batch of guns is purchased in, say, florida, and ends up being confiscated in kentucky still together with no record of sale - you have a trafficker on your hands. If they fire that gun and it matches trace data in some other crime..you have trafficking -and- that crime.
Each state has a known pipeline, as represented by trace data. Yes, we know that criminals will be criminals, but their willingness to engage in criminality doesn't actually scrub the universe clean of any evidence of their criminality. Your hypothetical guy could say "I sold them all"..and if they have no answer as to who they sold it to, they're admitting to a federal crime right off the bat. They may want to go ahead and cooperate, lest Uncle Sam get the bright idea that they themselves are trafficking in weapons later used in the commission of a crime and confiscated by law enforcement. This isn't the wild west, even if gun nuts and gun control nuts alike insist as much.
Perhaps, though, our hypothetical guy is you, OLB, and even though you do know who you sold them to, you decide that snitches get stitches, and say "said his name was John". Well, okay, sit down and describe john for us and we'll be looking for a guy who matches that description that travels between florida and kentucky. If and when we find our trafficker we'll ask him about you. Hope you guys got your stories straight.
Making shit up there bunkie....
Exactly what crime would be committed if I sold a rifle?
There is NO requirement for me to know the buyer, his history, or legal problems AND there is no way for me to legally check.
Be specific.
