RE: The 500 & Common Sense.
June 23, 2021 at 3:25 pm
(This post was last modified: June 23, 2021 at 3:58 pm by Drich.)
(June 23, 2021 at 2:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(June 23, 2021 at 2:35 pm)Drich Wrote: it's called prayer. once you learn to properly pray, you will find God answers all prayer. but again first you have to understand what prayer is.
How about amputees? Why doesn't God answer their prayers?
He does. what makes you assume he doesn't? oh, that's right you don't know what prayer is.. by the nature of your question you think prayer is a wishing ceremony.. sorry no. asking god for stuff is identified as supplication... prayer is something different entirely. Prayer is asking God to make you fit his will, while supplication is getting god to fit your own... Would it not make sense for God to help you when you ask him to make you fit his plan for your life rather than try and barging with god to follow your plan?
example if God wants you to love him first more than anything else with your current scale and understanding, so he can then expand your understanding and heart to be able to love 1000xs better and in a more mature sense. So you then can inturn give love on a level enough to then properly sustain the needs of a spouse and family for the rest of your life...
-but-
Your plan your petition is to get nancy sue love you as you understand it now, but god knows this would stunt your emotional growth making a shallow pos the rest of your life..
what petition or prayer do you think he will answer positively?
(a prayer modeled off the lord's prayer)
dear lord, i trust in your time your will so not only let it be done in my life but help me find the patience and open my eyes so i can see what and why things are happening...
( a self serving petition)
verse dear gawd please make nacy sue love me. i'll never ask you for anything else again. i promise 3rd base only, or second if i throw this nickel into the air 5 times and it comes up heads each time.
what makes people think they can bargain with God and call it prayer?
(June 23, 2021 at 2:47 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's more important to drich that the unfaithful are made to jump through an imaginary hoop than to help the suffering.if life was indeed a form of SIM theory like were are all just apart of a holodeck/matrix recreation of reality (A brain in a vat being fed electrical inputs to make it think it is part of a broader world, or a body tied into a matrix of sorts, or simple AI's who have to die in this world to wake up in reality.. (which is kinda what the bible describes creation is/God to be)
All spite no heart, sad.
If this is the case then what does it matter if our avatars exposed to in game suffering? ever play a video game? ever trivially kill a sprite/guy just to see what would happen? meaning if we are plugged into the matrix or if we are brains in vats or more biblically correct spiritual beings coexisting in a physical body what does it matter if the avatar is exposed to the dangers of the game so long as the gamer/spirit can not be hurt?
why would God devote a huge amount of energy preserving and protecting what amounts to a digital form designed to live but a few brief moments and then die?
God is concerned about the long Game the Spiritual being (the player in the real world/not mario on the screen) and it's place in the rest of eternity/real world not this sim. meaning if it means mario has to die by having the power turned off early or the game level become so increasing difficult, that the gamer gives up on the game/sim so that in real life he gets up and goes outside to play.. then it is not good that mario (in game had a hard/difficult life?)
So why should god care about, what you as a sim cares about, to the degree you care about it, if his goal is to get you take your turn to play the game and then move on to the rest of your life???
when in a few moments you will wake up from this simulation and nothing that mattered to you in the sim will matter in the real/heaven world.
(June 23, 2021 at 3:04 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:(June 23, 2021 at 2:38 pm)Jehanne Wrote: How about amputees? Why doesn't God answer their prayers?
Some things are too hard. For instance, God can't defeat an army using chariots made with iron. He also can't put a darn fence around a fruit tree.
what if God wanted the israelites to loose? what if he said hold back, and they pushed on without him?
Or what if God wanted man/eve to have a clear choice to make... to remain in his will or to elect to stand outside of it?
because without choice love can not exist. what if all of this sin sacrifice life death suffering all of it was to teach us not only what love is but how to give and share it
