(July 15, 2021 at 10:06 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:I take your point and fair enough if that's how you read it, but I definitely think me being one of the only people defending Chauvin and his rights definitely made that moderator biased against me.Bullshit you didn't give flip about "rights" the twisting and lies you engaged in to try and defend him make that clear.
Quote:He already thought I was a POS for my views on Chauvin, so of course when he saw that post it was the last straw for him or whatever. I don't know. One can pretty much take anything and twist it around to support what they're saying. Christian apologists do it with Richard Dawkins' quotes all of the time.No one twisted your words.
Quote: Everyone's position on Cosby now is the same as my expressed position on Kobe was then. "Even if he was guilty, Cosby should have gotten off." "Even if he was guilty, Kobe should have gotten off." See. Same thing. But I accept your response and I would have worded things better if I could go back like you suggested.That's not EVERYONE's position and no it's not the same. This is just bullshit backtracking.
(July 15, 2021 at 9:43 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: You said, and this is a direct quote:It's easy because that's what it was.
At best, this is an extraordinarily shitty way of saying that there was some serious evidence that this was a false accusation. Frankly, it's far too easy to read this as rape apologetics. Hell, it's easier to read it as rape apologetics than saying that there's no way he should have been found guilty. This is why, if I go into a discussion on a subject where I'm likely to have an unpopular opinion, I do my damnedest to choose my words very carefully.
My quote can only sound as bad as you try to make it sound if you cut it off mid quote and only focus on a few words while ignoring the rest. If you just highlight the part that says the accuser is a bad person, that could make me look bad, but then when you read the whole quote, you see I immediately followed that up with saying that what makes them bad is planning fake rape accusations. If planning fake rape accusations is not enough to consider someone a very flawed person, and if it is not enough to keep a black man in the prime of his life out of prison, then we must have a very different view of morality.