[Serious] PSA: Rape Apologetics

[vulcanlogician]

A specific function in a family organization, whether patriarchal or matriarchal, does not make women lesser, IMO. Even the strictest baptist around here won’t say that the Bible states women are propert . and I’m pretty sure some of them grew up with slaves. A woman having a role and a woman is property are leagues away from each other.

The reason “ their idea of religion is (for reasons that are honestly batshit) inextricably tied” to them is simple. We, as people are not one thing. We are a complex narrative of what we’ve been through, what we see ourselves as, what others see us as and our beliefs and desires.

The fact the any one could see women as property ( which has yet to be shown) is one of many beliefs that we all agree is fundamentally wrong. It is not tied to their religion, however their religion is tied to their identity. What I hear from the other side is religious people endorse rape and treating women as property, specifically because of their religion. I see it at the same ridiculousness as assuming my insistence that the grass is green and sky is blue because the Preacher told me so.

Not to be a contrarian, but slaves don't need to remain silent in the church, do they? Who needs to remain silent in the church?

That's the problem. Not necessarily that scripture states that women are property. But rather, if someone wanted to justify treating a woman as property, scripture would be a great resource for them.

I personally think the whole of the ancient world (even my beloved Greeks) treated women as property. (Separate from slaves, but slaves in their own right nonetheless). So I'm not pinning this all on Christianity. But I'm not letting Christianity off the hook either. The Old Testament sucks on the issue once again. New Testament doesn't fix it.