RE: PSA: Rape Apologetics
July 24, 2021 at 9:00 am
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2021 at 9:02 am by Mermaid.)
(July 23, 2021 at 6:53 pm)tackattack Wrote: The mischaracterizations that “the religious are in favor of rape” or that “ women are men’s” property are factually incorrect as a us centric religious tenant , and an exaggerated straw man to vilify the religious.
I agree that some men see women as their property, and that drich seemed to indicate acceptance of rape. Neither of those views stem from a religious doctrine. They may be a part of culture that needs to be addressed , but lumping that with xx religion/ religious people you have beef with is a fallacious way to start an argument and easily disproven as anti-religious bias. You’re entitled to your opinion, no matter how shitty, just like the religious on this Forum.
Exaggerated strawman? Shitty opinion? Way to attempt to discredit me. You are stating your opinions, these are not facts. You might argue that what I profess are opinions and I'd have to agree with you.
I believe the patriarchal structure absolutely does stem from religious doctrine. If I can't access birth control or get an abortion because of someone else's religion then yes, it's absolutely fucking related to religious doctrine. I am not attempting to lump anyone together, you are inserting your own defensiveness into what I said. It's NOT about YOU or any other individuals. Step back a bit and listen.
Contrary to what you apparently think, I do not have any beef with religious people and I have no agenda to vilify anything. My beef is with cultural issues that affect the lives of others that don't share those beliefs.
(July 24, 2021 at 8:36 am)Ten Wrote: I'm dubious on the debate about whether a religion actually promotes patriarchal ideals and "women as property/second class citizens"
• In the temple, when a woman is sealed to her husband for time and eternity, she is directly promising to obey the authority of her husband. And her husband makes promises to God. She doesn't get to make promises to God. Only to her husband, whom she must obey. In practice, it might look like a regular marriage with the husband cooking and doing dishes and the wife with a job. But these covenants n the temple are like signing a heavenly contract and the "documentation" in the eternal book says the husband talks to God directly as a representative for the family unit and the wife follows his lead.
Curious as to how you are dubious about patriarchy and religion given this information?
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