RE: Benevolent Creator God?
August 7, 2021 at 2:30 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2021 at 2:31 pm by R00tKiT.)
(August 7, 2021 at 2:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’ll make it as simple as possible for you, @Klorophyll :
Theist: I had experience X.
Skeptic: Oh, cool.
Theist: It was god talking to me.
Skeptic: How do you know that? How did you rule out natural causes?
Theist: I can’t rule out natural causes.
Skeptic: Do you have any evidence that it was a god?
Theist: No.
Skeptic: Then I’m not convinced the cause was a god.
Explain to me how my reasoning is flawed and yours is sound.
Fair enough, let me explain it to you : All experiences come from God, a deity being the source of all things. The most insane delusion of a mental patient also comes from God. The particular religious experiences we're talking only differ from the rest of experiences by their content. The revelations of prophets have material that is so culturally impressive as to be considered to be a message from God. Each individual perceive these religious experiences differently, accepting or dismissing them is the very divine test all religions are about.
For example, some people are prepared to reject Muhammad's message simply because he conducted wars, not because they think he didn't provide enough evidence, this tells more about their moral compass and intellectual honesty than about Muhammad. Wars can have valid reasons, and are irrelevant to truth.
And a small reminder here: we are presupposing God's existence in this discussion.