(August 7, 2021 at 7:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 7, 2021 at 6:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s less than 1000 miles from Cairo to Mecca. It isn’t unreasonable to posit that, during the fifteen centuries in which the title ‘pharaoh’ was used, word of the divine appointment of those particular kings could have filtered across that distance. In fact, it is UNreasonable to assert that not a single Egyptian made that journey (although a more likely scenario is that it happened in stages, over several generation).Not to mention the silly double-speak of claiming “there’s no way anyone could have possibly known anything true or factual about the Egyptians through mundane pathways,” while out the other side of his mouth propping up two-thousand-year-old oral tradition as a completely reliable method of communication that is delivering us facts and truth about a god; that we’re being irrational in our doubt. Help me out because I’m no historian; did the Egyptians not speak or write things down?
Since it is at least plausible that the divinity of the pharaohs was known in Arabia by mundane means, claiming that the only way Mohammad could have known about it was via God seems, well, a little desperate.
At any rate, I’d be interested to see the verse in question.
Boru
Not only did they speak and write things down, they traded with other people, some of whom no doubt spoke Egyptian. When people interact, things like stories, current events and religious beliefs get passed around. Egypt’s trading partners certainly traded further afield, spread cultural tidbits along with their profits. And so on and so on.
Of course, none of this proves that Mohammed didn’t get his pharaonic knowledge directly from God - it just makes it the (much) less likely hypothesis.
Boru
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