(August 25, 2021 at 8:30 am)Ahriman Wrote: I should clarify........mainstream American society is dystopian. I wouldn't know if any other country is dystopian, because I've only ever lived in America. But do you really think everyone in Norway is happy? Like it's some kind of utopia? No real utopia will be established until the followers of Jesus establish one, which won't be for hundreds of years from now, so it won't happen within our lifetime.
No, I don't think it is dystopian (televangelists excepted).
As for followers of Jesus establishing a utopia - FSM save us from others' utopias!
Afghanistan is about to turn into an Islamic fundamentalist utopia. The Christian fundies in the U.S. (the Christian Taliban) want a similar theocracy where their interpretation of God's desires are enshrined in law. Some people on here have an idea of a left-wing utopia where no-one has to work and the government provides.
Give me "messy" any day compared to other peoples' utopias.
