RE: Marxism, what you got?
August 27, 2021 at 4:56 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2021 at 5:14 am by Spongebob.)
I think you're right. This forum seems to have a ton of trolls or extremely idiot level members.
OK, I didn't realize you were referring to Marx's own vision rather than just the concept of workers owning the means of production. The core idea, I believe, is not a fairy tale or perverse in any way, but one can take any idea to an extreme. There are those who have promoted capitalism as utopia as well and we all know that is bunk.
(August 26, 2021 at 8:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(August 26, 2021 at 3:42 pm)Spongebob Wrote: How does Marxism promise a fairy tale?
Let's just first say that Marx was convicted that capitalism was on a brink of collapse in his lifetime.
He preached that Marxism will arise out of capitalism as a new class of people called proletarians who will know no borders between countries. That there will be no exploitation and no hierarchy anywhere in the society. He envisioned himself that he discovered some new form of man.
Furthermore, he preached that as proletarians arise they will abolish all political borders and all politics would stop existing. Then the technology from the capitalist society and labor free of all alienation would produce a socialist utopia where everyone has everything.
Communist manifesto claimed that Marx's communism could be defined in one sentence: abolition of all private property. In his "Das Kapital", Marx spelled it out: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs," although he failed to explain how this would work.
And like Jesus, Marx failed to live up to his preaching since he sexually exploited a maid that worked for him and his wife by fathering a child with her. He also pretty much never worked in his life but got most of the money from his pal Friedrich Engels.
OK, I didn't realize you were referring to Marx's own vision rather than just the concept of workers owning the means of production. The core idea, I believe, is not a fairy tale or perverse in any way, but one can take any idea to an extreme. There are those who have promoted capitalism as utopia as well and we all know that is bunk.
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
~Julius Sumner Miller