MysticKnight Wrote:Well a god is a living being that has the greatness that makes it worthy of worship. What a god is not universal, Greeks had their more human like gods.
The problem is you are defining deities as "greatness" without defining what you mean by "greatness". This term has multiple definitions, many of which are contradictory.
MysticKnight Wrote:When it comes to the "capital G', God, God is a Spirit, he is immaterial, and he is Ultimate in his attributes like being wise, merciful, compassionate, and good. It's very clear, and his nature has descriptions. Sure we don't grasp everything about his nature, we can't see it, but still we know some meaningful things about his nature and we have meaningful concept.
It is not very clear, and this is why. I assume by ultimate, you mean "better than all others". Then God is more wise*, merciful*, compassionate*, and good* than everyone else.
*this indicates adjectives which are defined subjective and require comparison to put into context. Some people are considered wise by some and not wise by others. This means wisdom is subjective, not objective. As are the other attributes.
Hence if God is possibly wise from point of view, POV1, that means he is possibly not wise from some point of view, POV2. Hence, he cannot be "ultimately wise" without being logically contradictory to the common definition of the term "wise". If it is a new definition of "wise", one now needs to define the new word "wise".
Simply saying "objectively wise" is meaningless as wisdom is dependent on reference. This is what causes the concept of an objective, perfect being to be nonsensical.
If one then says "POV1 is the correct evaluation of wisdom value" then the definition is as arbitrary as saying "God is God", as is the proof:
Quote:1. God's POV1 is the correct POV. (Premise)
2. God is defined as the being that is wiser than everyone else in POV1. (Premise)
3. God is wiser than everyone else in his POV1. (Premise)
5. Therefore, God is God. (From 1,2,3)
Furthermore, this definition has other issues. Does this mean God becomes more wise when another person becomes wiser than God? Does this mean there is objective value to characteristics of wisdom and people are not able to reach a certain level of wisdom? If so, why are we limited in how wise we can become? What is this objective value, and where can we find it? Why are the values of wisdom in the holy books which supposedly contain this truth self-contradictory? If this is the case, what is wisdom?
As you see, this definition now creates a wide variety of additional problems.
fr0d0 Wrote:Those points again, made easy for you:
5 equivellent (A=B) statements about Gods nature:
God is one. (Deut. 6:4, Romans 3:30, Galatians 3:20, James 2:19)
God is holy. (Psalm 99:9)
God is spirit. (John 4:24)
God is light. (1 John 1:5)
God is love. (1 John 4:8, 1 John 4:16)
light = love = spirit = holy = one = God?
Unfortunately, light =/= love.
