Mindfulness or Mindlessness?

[The Grand Nudger]

I agree, even in a tunnel of ignorance any increased accuracy is consequential (and I'd say the same of sensory accuracy anytime we employ the semantics that might deny that accuracy). Saying that there is no color in the universe is false on it's very face, and any further elaboration which relies on this is in exponential experiential error. Saying that there is no color.... exactly as we perceive it..... may be true, but irrelevant to apprehension or the content validity of apprehension.

If the "mystery" of consciousness is predicated on the force of such objections.....this, it's no mystery at all, and there are no such valid objections. That doesn't mean there can't be mysteries, and mysteries of consciousness.......just that this is demonstrably not one of them - so, couldn't be referred to as a demonstration of the existence of that set.

If consciousness is a control schema, it doesn't have to look like anything in particular, but it does have to look like something, and the granted ability of that schema is directly correlated with how well the simulated content matches the actual content..which is pretty well...according to our instrument derived measurements of millimeters or colors. The distribution of accurate sensory input and subsequent apprehension through process is non-zero/unknown, and the more successful we see those processes to be, the further from non zero that non...non-known...... set, is demonstrated to be.

Red is real, even if not real in the way we imagine it, and the same might be said of consciousness in general.

I think this even though the way I think about consciousness allows at least the product of consciousness as we know it (so much as we do) in all manner of disparate circumstance.