The meaninglessness of the Christian god concept

[fr0d0]

[quote='fr0d0' pid='205964' dateline='1321198798']
Yet again, you are failing to provide logical evidence either way.

The Xtian definition is set, and so you have that to address if you choose to, and you seem to be choosing to.

I addressed it but it seems to be incomprehensible to you. I addressed it by asking how we can know it is true. If we can't know it is true your argument fails there and then.
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The point you are addressing is the provability of the Xtian God.

As I have already said, the truth of the reality of God is there to be tested if you wish to do so. I have also provided you with the exact methodology to use.

I've also already stated that the existence of God cannot be emprically known.

Where's the problem?

Through belief you can find out if it's true or not, and not in any other way. You either address the problem or don't. It matters not to me either way.

Aaah, we can know it's true not by establishing facts, but by "believing" it is true. Says who? With what authority?

Look at the infomation I have already preseted you with. The information is readily available to you to assess. No one cal tell you what to believe. That's a choice only you can make, based upon the evidence.

There is sound rational basis there for you to consider. It is your choice to act upon that either way.

Belief that something is true is not sound rational basis to establish it is true.

Because your illogic defies it?

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[quote]You state that there isn't a god. A bold claim. On what evidence? A: Because you say so.

No, not because I say so but because there is no evidence to support the existence of god and no reason to believe in a creator either.

Are you citing logically impossible evidence? If so then that is no reason.

When somebody is telling you that no evidence to support that gods exists is NOT a rational reason to state that there are no gods, you've won.

Sorry whut??

Your choice, given God or not given God, is to suffer the hell of doing bad stuff or live in heaven and do what's right. Those are scary words I know.

They aren't scary words, they are nothing words meaning nothing and based on superstitious belief, nothing more.
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What we have there are universal truths. If you deny those then you deny reality.

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fr0d0, Could you not say the same for the invisible hyenas that live in my shower?

Like I said in the other thread... the model stands because it logically follows. Substituting nonsense produces something of equal value to nonsense.