Mindfulness or Mindlessness?

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure, different ways of thinking about a thing produce different outcomes. I think a little further down on that page it also briefly mentions pzombies.

For instance, a person's phenomenal concept would have content of a phenomenal state, while the "schmenomenal" concept of a zombie would have content about a "schmenomenal" state. A zombie "is correct when he says that he is conscious, because he isn't saying that he has phenomenal states as we understand them. He is correct because he means that he has schmenomenal states, and he has them." So people and zombies can both have true beliefs justified in similar ways (same epistemic situation), even if those beliefs are about different things.[4]

This brings us back to the apathetic fallacy, where the only thing we appear to be objecting to when the pzombie claims that it's conscious, is the manner in which it's achieved it. That objection is evergreen between ourselves and any other non human conscious agent, and even between ourselves..as none of us are identical and do this the same way. We don't see consciousness in processing no matter how needlingly accurate the description of that processing is and even if that processing could reproduce every salient aspect of consciousness. Even if it weren't a pzmobie we were talking about...but a legit machine mind (however concieved of to make whatever distinction between mind and pzombie-ism one prefers)..it would still not do consciousness the way that we do/the way we think we do. It would have a third type of state, roombamenomenal states - even if that included things like body and attention control mechanisms which did absolutely everything our phenomenal mechanisms do.