RE: The meaninglessness of the Christian god concept
November 13, 2011 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2011 at 1:27 pm by Norfolk And Chance.)
(November 13, 2011 at 12:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The point you are addressing is the provability of the Xtian God.
As I have already said, the truth of the reality of God is there to be tested if you wish to do so. I have also provided you with the exact methodology to use.
I've also already stated that the existence of God cannot be emprically known.
How do you know this?
Quote:Where's the problem?
Where's the problem? hock:
The problem is you saying that the existence of god cannot be empirically known, but this does not make it true! What gives you the authority to claim this? You are making this statement as fact, I do not accept "christians say so" as a fact.
Quote:Look at the infomation I have already preseted you with. The information is readily available to you to assess. No one cal tell you what to believe. That's a choice only you can make, based upon the evidence.
We agree there. You've provided "information" (based on belief) but no evidence for me to believe. You have only posted intellectual sounding, meaningless, word salad - AKA theology.
Really if we strip away your contribution on this thread all the way back to the building blocks of your argument, your start point is - "we cannot empirically know god exists", not because that statement is based in fact, but just because christians defined it so. "The only way to know god exists is to believe". Because christians said so. This just isn't good enough for me.
Ultimately any argument starting from that point can only be meaningless drivel, no matter how much you back it up with more meaningless shite. You just can't build castles in the sand, and theists try and do it all day long.
(November 13, 2011 at 1:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Logic Norf
Nooooooo, it is logical to be able to expect to be able to collect evidence of a real phenomenon.
It is NOT logic, to say "well you can't, but it is real nonetheless".