RE: That Gay Thread
October 7, 2021 at 8:39 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2021 at 8:41 pm by Irreligious Atheist.)
(October 7, 2021 at 5:37 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote:(October 7, 2021 at 10:58 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: The wokeists need to get over themselves. Trans need to learn to laugh at themselves. I'm bisexual, not that there's anything right with that, and a lot of jokes about gays can be pretty funny. Why is Dave obsessed with joking about trans over and over? Why is Louis CK, Bill Burr, etc railing against cancel culture in their acts? Because it's necessary at this point in time for people to take a stand against the BS woke cancel culture, and Dave Chapelle and these other comedians are not speaking up about this to be edgy. That's not it at all. It's because they feel it is absolutely necessary to take a stand at this moment in history, to try to save comedy in general from being cancelled and watered down by the woke mob. I applaud them for doing this.
I haven't watched the special, but the tweets about it in the first link weren't over-reactions or cancel culture.
A comedian can use edgy material to show some absurdity. Sure, a trans woman isn't identical to a biological woman. The TERF term, however, is a political statement that trans-women must not ever be considered women.
That's his opinion, and it isn't humorous. That's when the comedy becomes politics that I can't support.
Dave Chappelle doesn't know the difference between gender and sex. He seems to think they are the same thing. He's far from an expert on this subject and on these terms, but he's certainly not a "radical" feminist in the first place, so he can't be a TERF without first being a radical feminist. In fact, he said he just found out what feminist means, so clearly this isn't an area he's been studying for years or anything. Can people be offended by him calling himself TERF? Sure. He said far worse things in the stand-up special though. Said he enjoyed being raped by a priest. Compared his body fighting coronavirus to black people on the street attacking Asians, basically equating Chinese people with the virus. It's supposed to be offensive, but I don't think Dave actually understands what a TERF really is, and he clearly said he respects trans enough to call them what they want to be called, and he said he's not saying they're not women, but he thinks gender is fact. I believe he means sex AKA chromosomes and body parts are fact, but I'll call you a woman if you want to be called one, which you can call an undereducated opinion, but he's not intentionally being hateful at all to trans people imo.
But yeah, one of the first responses in this thread was about Dave Chappelle thinking trans people were some kind of non human monsters, and this is the kind of nonsense you will hear from many trans activists. "You won't even acknowledge that I'm a human being" and "your speech is violence so you need to be silenced". It's nonsense.
(October 7, 2021 at 6:19 pm)Helios Wrote:Quote:The wokeists need to get over themselves. Trans need to learn to laugh at themselves. I'm bisexual, not that there's anything right with that, and a lot of jokes about gays can be pretty funny. Why is Dave obsessed with joking about trans over and over? Why is Louis CK, Bill Burr, etc railing against cancel culture in their acts? Because it's necessary at this point in time for people to take a stand against the BS woke cancel culture, and Dave Chapelle and these other comedians are not speaking up about this to be edgy. That's not it at all. It's because they feel it is absolutely necessary to take a stand at this moment in history, to try to save comedy in general from being cancelled and watered down by the woke mob. I applaud them for doing this.No, they don't have to learn to do any of that. These clowns need to learn to update their comedy instead of playing the victim they aren't and weaponizing comedy because your butthurt is just pathetic.
Dave Chappelle is the biggest comedian in the world. He doesn't need to alter shit about his act. He's trying to save comedy from this death by 1000 cuts which it is currently undergoing.