Thomism: Then & Now

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RE: Thomism: Then & Now

October 13, 2021 at 5:46 pm

Belacqua gave good examples that I will poke into shortly. That said, I would not use the arm/stick/rock as an example of simultaneous cause since mechanical force travels down the stick, in time, as a compression wave.

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Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2021 at 6:10 pm

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