Thomism: Then & Now

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[Serious] Thomism: Then & Now

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RE: Thomism: Then & Now

October 20, 2021 at 6:06 am

(October 20, 2021 at 4:59 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(October 20, 2021 at 4:50 am)DLJ Wrote: Neither the platypus nor the component parts of the platypus have essence. The essence (properties) are in the reading not in the thing being read.

The essence is the set of properties. The platypus really has a set of properties. Therefore it has an essence.

Or are you thinking that an essence is some ghostly additional thing?

Nope. Not thinking that. That's why I asked that last question, to show I was making the distinction.

OK, so let's say that these properties, characteristics, attributes etc. = essence. Essence, therefore is the sum of the descriptors... information.

There's the thing (existing) and there's the information about the thing (essence).

The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)

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Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2021 at 6:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 6, 2021 at 8:12 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 7, 2021 at 9:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 8, 2021 at 5:57 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 8, 2021 at 7:33 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 8, 2021 at 7:37 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 9, 2021 at 9:48 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 10, 2021 at 12:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2021 at 2:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 13, 2021 at 3:20 pm

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RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 10, 2021 at 4:19 am

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