Thomism: Then & Now

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RE: Thomism: Then & Now

October 28, 2021 at 11:30 pm

(October 28, 2021 at 11:13 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: He uses the analogy of a ship's captain.

The ship of state. One of my favorite analogies. I don't think Plato so much hated the idea of democracy. I think he dislikes what it becomes. A bunch of idiots who don't know how to steer the ship and are too busy trying to "become the one who gets to steer" that they feel little need to actually learn how to steer it. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2021 at 6:10 pm

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