(October 30, 2021 at 7:54 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The argument is that there is only the matter there, and "form" is some kind of dispensable addition to what is actually there.
I don't see how you can have matter without form.
If it's clay, the form may be "lump" or "glob" but it's still a form.
Is there an example of some matter which has no form? Remember that "form" doesn't need to be a solid shape. Hydrogen and oxygen (matter) combine to form water, which is malleable, but also requires a form (the way it's put together).
There's nothing magic about form. It's just the way the matter goes together.
