Thomism: Then & Now

Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!

Current time: December 19, 2025, 7:32 am

Thread Rating:

0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
1
2
3
4
5

Thread Modes

[Serious] Thomism: Then & Now

Belacqua Offline

Senior Member

Religious Views: Um...

Posts: 4798
Threads: 13
Joined: September 27, 2018
Reputation: 16

#165

RE: Thomism: Then & Now

October 31, 2021 at 6:53 pm (This post was last modified: October 31, 2021 at 6:54 pm by Belacqua.)

(October 31, 2021 at 12:28 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Looking over the Wikipedia entry, one issue is how hylomorphism is applied to living beings, including humans.

Of course hylomorphism applies to humans. We are made of matter and we're put together in a certain way.

I'm guessing you don't like certain of the conclusions that Aristotle and Thomas draw concerning what the human form consists of.

(October 31, 2021 at 5:20 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Since.. with the bronze you're simply applying heat and form work and the shape is different. With the paper you're actually chemically chancing things around some what so... they aren't analogous. Where as the wood being shaped from tree to furntiure is a closer fit.

Both objects are made of matter arranged in a certain form. Both examples are fine.

Find

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread

Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 6, 2021 at 6:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 6, 2021 at 8:12 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 7, 2021 at 9:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 8, 2021 at 5:57 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 8, 2021 at 7:33 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 8, 2021 at 7:37 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 9, 2021 at 9:48 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 10, 2021 at 12:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2021 at 2:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 13, 2021 at 3:20 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2021 at 3:23 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 13, 2021 at 3:25 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2021 at 3:26 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 8, 2021 at 2:54 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 8, 2021 at 4:23 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 8, 2021 at 5:59 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by brewer - October 8, 2021 at 8:30 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Jehanne - October 8, 2021 at 10:51 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 9, 2021 at 10:49 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 9, 2021 at 11:00 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 9, 2021 at 1:38 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 10, 2021 at 4:19 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 10, 2021 at 12:09 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 11, 2021 at 12:13 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 11, 2021 at 12:44 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 11, 2021 at 1:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 11, 2021 at 7:04 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 12, 2021 at 2:15 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 12, 2021 at 5:54 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 13, 2021 at 12:43 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 13, 2021 at 2:59 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 13, 2021 at 4:13 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 14, 2021 at 12:36 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2021 at 4:00 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 15, 2021 at 12:59 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 14, 2021 at 5:16 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 17, 2021 at 11:47 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 11, 2021 at 4:52 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 4:53 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 12, 2021 at 12:07 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Pat Mustard - October 12, 2021 at 4:40 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 12, 2021 at 6:36 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Mister Agenda - October 12, 2021 at 10:57 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 12, 2021 at 11:01 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Mister Agenda - October 12, 2021 at 11:07 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 12:12 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 12, 2021 at 12:27 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 12, 2021 at 12:40 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 12:28 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 12, 2021 at 12:35 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 12:38 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 12, 2021 at 5:01 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 5:04 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2021 at 6:32 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 12, 2021 at 7:15 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2021 at 2:34 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 13, 2021 at 5:18 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2021 at 4:47 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2021 at 5:46 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 13, 2021 at 5:59 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 14, 2021 at 3:03 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2021 at 3:26 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 14, 2021 at 3:34 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 14, 2021 at 3:34 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 15, 2021 at 1:29 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 15, 2021 at 2:44 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 15, 2021 at 5:17 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 15, 2021 at 5:59 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 15, 2021 at 7:36 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 15, 2021 at 10:07 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 15, 2021 at 7:54 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 15, 2021 at 8:48 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 15, 2021 at 8:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 16, 2021 at 6:47 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 15, 2021 at 9:33 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 15, 2021 at 12:54 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 15, 2021 at 2:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 15, 2021 at 3:14 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 15, 2021 at 3:40 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 15, 2021 at 11:02 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 16, 2021 at 2:52 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 17, 2021 at 7:14 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 16, 2021 at 3:07 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 16, 2021 at 3:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 18, 2021 at 6:18 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 18, 2021 at 8:35 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 18, 2021 at 9:10 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 18, 2021 at 9:26 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by HappySkeptic - October 18, 2021 at 10:08 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 18, 2021 at 10:25 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 19, 2021 at 12:12 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 19, 2021 at 8:40 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 19, 2021 at 5:30 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 19, 2021 at 6:32 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 19, 2021 at 10:21 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 20, 2021 at 4:04 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 20, 2021 at 4:50 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 20, 2021 at 4:59 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 20, 2021 at 6:06 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 20, 2021 at 7:24 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 20, 2021 at 8:46 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 20, 2021 at 9:14 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by DLJ - October 20, 2021 at 10:58 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 20, 2021 at 5:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 21, 2021 at 8:56 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 21, 2021 at 9:15 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 21, 2021 at 9:45 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2021 at 6:42 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 20, 2021 at 9:16 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 20, 2021 at 9:32 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 21, 2021 at 5:51 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 24, 2021 at 9:35 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 24, 2021 at 9:55 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 25, 2021 at 7:07 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by LadyForCamus - October 25, 2021 at 7:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 25, 2021 at 8:24 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by LadyForCamus - October 25, 2021 at 8:35 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 25, 2021 at 8:42 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 25, 2021 at 9:46 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 24, 2021 at 10:18 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 25, 2021 at 10:09 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 26, 2021 at 7:46 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 26, 2021 at 6:57 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 26, 2021 at 8:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 26, 2021 at 9:10 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 26, 2021 at 9:30 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 27, 2021 at 10:15 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 27, 2021 at 7:00 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 27, 2021 at 8:25 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 27, 2021 at 9:20 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 27, 2021 at 9:45 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 28, 2021 at 1:09 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 28, 2021 at 10:19 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2021 at 8:30 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 28, 2021 at 7:43 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 28, 2021 at 1:37 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 28, 2021 at 3:22 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - October 28, 2021 at 3:24 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 28, 2021 at 6:40 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 28, 2021 at 9:03 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 28, 2021 at 10:29 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 29, 2021 at 9:15 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 28, 2021 at 11:13 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 28, 2021 at 11:30 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Oldandeasilyconfused - October 28, 2021 at 11:48 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 29, 2021 at 5:57 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 29, 2021 at 8:09 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 29, 2021 at 9:33 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 12:31 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - October 30, 2021 at 1:16 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 30, 2021 at 4:33 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 5:03 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - October 31, 2021 at 12:49 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 31, 2021 at 3:25 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 31, 2021 at 12:28 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 31, 2021 at 6:53 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 31, 2021 at 8:28 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - November 1, 2021 at 12:20 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - November 1, 2021 at 12:35 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - November 1, 2021 at 1:51 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 1, 2021 at 4:51 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 31, 2021 at 5:20 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 4:48 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 30, 2021 at 5:01 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - October 30, 2021 at 5:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 5:20 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 30, 2021 at 7:47 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - October 30, 2021 at 7:54 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - October 30, 2021 at 8:06 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - November 1, 2021 at 1:13 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - November 1, 2021 at 1:41 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 1:54 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Angrboda - November 1, 2021 at 1:59 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2021 at 2:22 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 2:35 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2021 at 2:40 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 3:00 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - November 1, 2021 at 3:18 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 3:33 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2021 at 3:34 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 3:39 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2021 at 3:44 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 3:53 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 8:01 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - November 1, 2021 at 8:46 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 9:17 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Belacqua - November 1, 2021 at 9:59 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 1, 2021 at 10:25 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 5, 2021 at 11:47 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by Neo-Scholastic - November 1, 2021 at 7:17 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - November 1, 2021 at 9:56 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 1, 2021 at 8:59 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2021 at 11:59 am

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 5, 2021 at 1:15 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2021 at 1:43 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 5, 2021 at 2:11 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2021 at 2:23 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 5, 2021 at 3:34 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2021 at 4:12 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 8, 2021 at 9:01 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by vulcanlogician - November 8, 2021 at 9:06 pm

RE: Thomism: Then & Now - by emjay - November 11, 2021 at 10:32 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	A question about Thomism	Angrboda	24	5787	August 10, 2023 at 9:41 pm Last Post: Bucky Ball
	Negative thinking is better then positive thinking	Gooders1002	6	2546	May 7, 2013 at 5:26 am Last Post: KichigaiNeko
	What Can We Believe, Then?	QuestingHound08	15	4971	September 7, 2011 at 6:32 pm Last Post: Rhizomorph13

View a Printable Version

Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me