(November 2, 2021 at 4:44 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:(November 2, 2021 at 1:39 pm)Angrboda Wrote: That wooshing sound you hear is the point going over your head. There is no legitimate reason I would need to act as you seem to think that I must. Why would I?
In general understanding, there is nothing about the concepts of a soul and an afterlife that requires that they be linked to a god; so the fact that for some god-believers they are linked is a red herring.
And for your information, a few years ago I was a Shakta Hindu who believed in the goddess Kali, but did not have a belief in souls or an afterlife. So, no, they aren't "always" linked.
Okay so if the Goddess Kali doesn’t have an answer on this but other beliefs which include a God, do.
You’ve defined yourself as an atheist if I remember correctly, so your position doesn’t allow for any speculation on my questions which derives from a belief system (in Gods).
What I said was that I am religiously unaffiliated. But no matter, your conclusion involves an example of the genetic fallacy, and so is invalid. Even if the concept of souls and an afterlife were originally tied to beliefs in a god, that wouldn't mean that those concepts are still invariably tied to gods. The concepts of soul and an afterlife are not strictly and necessarily tied to gods in the present.
Quote:The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue) is a fallacy of irrelevance that is based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. In other words, a claim is ignored in favor of attacking or championing its source.
The fallacy therefore fails to assess the claim on its merit. The first criterion of a good argument is that the premises must have bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim in question. Genetic accounts of an issue may be true, and they may help illuminate the reasons why the issue has assumed its present form, but they are not conclusive in determining its merits.
Wikipedia || Genetic fallacy
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