RE: The Sects of Atheism
November 2, 2021 at 6:32 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2021 at 7:00 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 2, 2021 at 5:53 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:(November 2, 2021 at 5:51 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Do you understand what a logical argument is? Give us your syllogism. What are you premises? The conclusion? Go ahead. I’ll wait.
So you’re saying you don’t like that description to your question in English? Should I try in Italian? Greek? 😄
(November 2, 2021 at 5:52 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: But my reasons for believing or disbelieving claims, has nothing to do with whether it is worshipped or not.
Because, even if someone were able to demonstrate that a god does exist, I would no longer be an atheist, but that does not mean I will worship said god.
I put gods into the category of unsupported supernatural claims, not in the category of things that are worshipped.
Look this is very simple. If you claim to be an atheist, stay true to the definition of the word Not your reasons.
I disbelieve that gods exist. I think this would define me as an atheist.
I don't claim to know, with absolute certainty, that gods do not exist. I think this would define me as agnostic.
I am open to being convinced that gods exist. All it would require is: demonstrable and falsifiable evidence, and valid and sound logic to support the claim. So far, in my life up til now, I have not been presented with such, so my disbelief in gods remains.
It is not for lack of a sincere search on my part. I have read the Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita.
I have read at least 10 books written by Christian apologists, such as: William Craig, Wallace, Norman Geisler, Strobel, Plantinga, etc).
I have personally studied all the so called philosophical arguments for the existence of god, such as: Kalam Cosmological argument, the teleological arguments, the ontological arguments, presuppositionalism. They all are either logically invalid or unsound.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.