RE: The Ownership of Science
November 3, 2021 at 2:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2021 at 2:42 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 3, 2021 at 2:24 pm)GaryAnderson Wrote:You just got through telling me that you were the confused one?(November 3, 2021 at 2:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You understand just fine, you simply insist on arguing counterfactually.
Doesn't have anything to do with whether or not I like it - there actually is a difference between religious beliefs and the body of superstition that a given religion might accrue which surround those beliefs.
Dude. A theist will use fine-tuning as a reason to say that the universe is intelligently designed. A theist will also say that God was the prime mover.
Both answers, answer something which science can’t prove but science is used in our case to make an educated guess.
Philosophers use other scientific facts based on quantum mechanics to say that we live in a multiverse or a simulation.
Why are you so confused about this?
Sure, you can make claims, but that's not a scientific claim. It's wrong with respect to the facts. The universe isn't you shaped, you're universe shaped. Are you trying to convince these people that it's not possible for a religious belief to be supported by scientific facts?
What do you need this to be true to contend about the sacred, about what's set apart and forbidden? Let's start there? I bet there's a way to establish that without making a counterfactual statement your only premise.
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