(November 17, 2011 at 4:38 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Religion is based on empiricism? lol. Care to back up that with evidence tango?The Sumerian gods had three meals a day. Homer, who recorded the ancient Greek tradition, described gods as being of the quality of the God of the Old Testament, gods who raped women and killed children. The ancient Greek philosophers did not like those gods and invented the allegorical interpretation of the myths.
No spirituality at all until the Egyptian priesthood comes into play.
The Egyptian funerary texts which date from 2500 BC are records of the oral tradition of the ancient Egyptians. As many other peoples on earth they also relate that the gods were exterminating one generation of humans after the other. The point here is that been the oldest, the Egyptian texts, carried more accurate information. They mention the judgment of living people by the gods (actually the judgment is the main and only subject of the texts) and describe the beautiful life which enjoy those who went through the judgment successfully.
The clergy presented the life after the judgment as life after death and thus sprang into existence all the spiritual marvels of soul, immortality, Netherworld and immaterial gods.
Ours is a spiritual world, not theirs.
Their gods produced offspring by means of masturbation. What sort of spirituality is that?
(November 17, 2011 at 5:45 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: And that's why god is made up, you've answered it yourself. Everything was talked of in supernatural terms because they knew no better, not because it was true!The God, the One and Only, I agree that he was made up.
The gods of the ancients were not made up because there is nothing supernatural in raping and killing and that’s what those gods are reported to have done.
When those whose women were raped could take no more, they revolted and forced the gods to leave for some other places.
The missing gods were said to have climbed to the heavens by a ladder!!
In the Egyptian funerary texts one of the supposed prayers (which aim in helping the Pharaoh to become god) addresses the gods and says that the god who will not place the ladder for the King to ascend to the heavens, he will have no roast beef (he will smell not the foreleg he will eat not the hind leg).
If the Egyptian priests had not teach the ancient Greek philosophers about souls and immortality the religion may had faded out, or at least it would have been something very different from what it is today.