(June 20, 2009 at 6:09 pm)Anto Kennedy Wrote: Anyway, if you want to understand something, you have to study it. Dawkins hasn't and clearly doesn't know what he doesn't believe in.
If you criticize a film without even watching it, you're only awareness of the film coming from the word of mouth of friends and two-bit film critics in your local paper, you're just wasting you're breath.
On the film yes that's true and I have been highly critical of atheists who have slammed films like "The Passion Of The Christ" without going to see it ... I did (courtesy of a local church seeking converts) and I thought it was pretty crap.
The issue of the claimed existence of a god or gods however is an entirley different matter for a number of reasons:
- There are many gods that are or have been claimed to exist. You believe in only one of them and (as is frequently said around these parts) once you understand why it is you reject those others gods you will understand why it is we reject yours.
- There is usually only one authoritative set of scriptures for a given god/religion ... in the case of Christianity that is The Bible and any argument that you need to experience more than just reading the bible sails perilously into "No True Scotsman" fallacy waters.
- If a god really does exist and affects our world in various miraculous ways there would be evidence even if we couldn't identify the causative agent ... our resident long term theist, Frodo, disagrees with this though he has failed to give a decent argument to support his view that the actions of deity are somehow excepted from the normal rules of analysis so far.
(June 20, 2009 at 6:09 pm)Anto Kennedy Wrote: Religion is a too important aspect of human behaviour to be dismissed in such a weak book as the GD.
Why?
(June 20, 2009 at 6:09 pm)Anto Kennedy Wrote: Dawkins needs to step up his game if he is to achieve his set objectives, otherwise it's a fail.
Personally I think he nailed it absolutely, 100% spot on and interestingly I note that it tends to be those with something to defend (those whose views/faiths Dawkins attacks that tend to take that stance).
Kyu
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