[Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false

[WinterHold]

Without a just cause any army will fall; like the U.S army fell in Afghanistan and the Romans before them.
The "Quran" was the just cause early Muslims believed in; when their grandsons switched to Hadith the 'just cause' evaporated, and defeat became eminent.

Imma stop you right there.  You don't know the first thing about armed conflict, justice has nothing to do with who wins, and I doubt that your fellow muslims (past and present) would appreciate your characterization of them all being idol worshippers...bowing down and killing other people and their fellow believers...over a book, rather than believers in a god - though I enjoy it very much.  

It's not as if you think america is just for example..and yet you might notice that this is the american century?  It's not that you think islam is unjust, as another, but you've obviously realized that the ummah got their shit pushed in.  Would your appraisal of america change if we'd just annihilated the afghan people and declared the country a territory, you know..winning?  Would your appraisal of isis change if they'd managed to hold onto their caliphate?

The right cause has everything to do with armed conflicts; since it is the main motivator of the "soldiers" fighting. Whenever the "cause" is too vague, the soldiers will lose the will to fight if the cause evaporated, in war tactics we call that "demoralisation"; and whoever lose the will to fight loses the battle.

Take the Iraq war as an example: when "WMDs" turned out to be a fake cause, the U.S amy collapsed and the country was given to Iran, also in Afghanistan, when 9/11 became too old; Bin Laden got killed already, the U.S amy lost all the morals and all the will; the soldiers just had nothing to fight for. 

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WinterHold said:

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As for Islamic factions, their cause is based on demonising a group(s) of people; because that is in the core of Islam to identify a group of beings as evil: "the world has good people and bad people; saints & demons". The Quran gives a specific list to evil people, so it wasn't enough for Islamic factions: they expanded the list massively using the "Hadith" books, and whomever belongs to any list the faction believes in is demonised.

Thus; if you were a Shiite Fatimid Caliph wanting to wage war on Iraq to control the Euphrates, then put Iraqies in the list of "demonised" folks, by ordering your religious schools to issue a Fatwa against them. Mobilise armies then invade.
Result ? massive civil wars in the Islamic realm.

Ever occur to you that when magic book demonizes some group of people that's just as poorly thought out?  I mean, you're sitting here telling us that magic book and hadith both do a thing and that the thing is a bad thing, and that's part of why you believe in one.... but not the other?

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I was quite obvious:

Quran= specific list of demonised people
Hadith= almost unlimited list of demonised people.