RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
December 29, 2021 at 12:15 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2021 at 12:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 29, 2021 at 11:58 am)WinterHold Wrote:(December 29, 2021 at 11:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's not why the guy got blinded, nor is that why the caliphate was attacking them. Like I said before, the problem isn't that you don't know shit - but that you can't. It's not competence, but capability.
We have the same sort of thing here (and all over the world, really). People who are simply lost to the human race, and cannot be brought back. Irene, constantine, the caliphate, none of these actors were interested in goodness or the wellbeing of their fellow man - they were all competing with each other to assert their own brutal means and ends to the same. A dispute between those who would be kings. It ended horribly for everyone involved. Constantine, Irene, the eastern and western empires, catholic hegemony, the caliphate - all dust..and the only difference any of them ever made was in grinding other people to dust as well in the process.
Irene was a heathen enthusiast in history, and had a deep grudge against her son + a civil war and lifelong rivalry with him, the fate she conspired with other fanatics to inflict on her son was heavily inspired by Greek heathen practices:
Quote:The punishment has been used since Antiquity; makes several references to blinding as divine punishment, which reflects human practice.
Get over your caliphate fetish. This is the aftermath of a Christian vs Heathen war.
See how you manage to get every detail wrong at every turn, establishing the problem with every post? Irene and Constantine were both christians.. Irenes issue with her son being that he was a threat to her building authority, and the issue that the christian authorities had with irene specifically, beside their distaste for any empress, full stop..was that she was an ineffective empress in the face of territorial expansion by the abassid caliphate....and, meanwhile, a very effective alternative to her rule had established themselves in the west (after having won territory from her)...now waging all out war against the ummah and driving it..literally... into the sea.
But do go ahead.....with your full and comprehensive grasp of the situation....
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