RE: My own moral + ontological argument.
November 20, 2011 at 8:38 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2011 at 9:11 pm by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
There are arguments based on facts and there are fuzzy arguments.
Morality is not generally an opinion. Morality may be the sum of behaviors that are accepted or rejected in a society, but not based on opinion. Morality is mostly based on human experience. Morality has changed in general as individual humans have realized that if they want to increase their odds of living a comfortable life or a less stressful life, a life without the fear of getting clubbed, there had to be rules that reduced conflict among humans. The ideal morality is the morality that produces the least conflict among humans. Unfortunately, some groups of humans hold on to outdated versions of morality, a version for example that doesn't allow homosexuals to get married. The bottom line is that morality is the sum of behaviors that are accepted or rejected in a society, but what is rejected or accepted will likely change (as we have seen it change) to reduce significant conflict because conflict costs too much. Morality is a very real phenomena: there are behaviors that are accepted or rejected and what is accepted or rejected varies by geographical location.
(November 18, 2011 at 3:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(November 18, 2011 at 10:51 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Why must morality have an eternal basis to be real?
Why can't humans make up morality as we go along - as we have done.
When I mean morality is real, I don't mean whether it exists, but if there is really a "should" or "better" way to act, and it's not merely just an opinion.
Morality is not generally an opinion. Morality may be the sum of behaviors that are accepted or rejected in a society, but not based on opinion. Morality is mostly based on human experience. Morality has changed in general as individual humans have realized that if they want to increase their odds of living a comfortable life or a less stressful life, a life without the fear of getting clubbed, there had to be rules that reduced conflict among humans. The ideal morality is the morality that produces the least conflict among humans. Unfortunately, some groups of humans hold on to outdated versions of morality, a version for example that doesn't allow homosexuals to get married. The bottom line is that morality is the sum of behaviors that are accepted or rejected in a society, but what is rejected or accepted will likely change (as we have seen it change) to reduce significant conflict because conflict costs too much. Morality is a very real phenomena: there are behaviors that are accepted or rejected and what is accepted or rejected varies by geographical location.
