Occupy wallstreet demands

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Kilic, if there are 10 jobs and 20 people, 10 people will be without jobs, regardless of their work ethic, education and drive to succeed. It's simple.

As a matter of calculation, yes. However, in real life, it's not simply a matter of simple algebra. Indeed, if there is a single job, and you are more qualified, and more experienced, you are more likely to get that job than the other(unless it's a family business, or there is some sort of a driving force for the emploer to hire the less experienced/qualified one). This allows for the more experienced and better quality people to have jobs, and enjoy the benefits of their life's work.
Indeed, there are places which hire extensively, only new people, who are paid considerably less wages(lets say, for example, if you're a newly graduated chemist(with no extra degrees) who wants to work in a lab, you're going to get payed only 1500TL(820.951 USD) a month. However, an experienced chemist(or someone who has a masters or higher degree), may find work in the same company as a foreman, or higher.
I also stressed this fact in my post above. It is, at least partly, a matter of qualification. And in the case for people of higher education, I think this system is quite rewarding in America.

Creating jobs requires a government that is not waylaid by indebtedness to big businesses. When politicians back companies that fuck the average American, the average American becomes more and more in debt because he can borrow, but cannot earn in this society. The money goes into big time lending that people cannot afford to pay back because of lack of jobs. Then, those lending companies can take everything a person has, leaving them destitute. They take much more than what the initial loan was worth. People then have absolutely nothing to show for the work they have done in their lives.

I understand, but how is this somewhat related to creating jobs?
Do you suggest that the government opens up more places in civil service sectors or government owned businesses?
Besides, how exactly do the "companies" effect the money lending affairs of banks? The banks, and the interest rates are regulated by the central bank. Why not complain to the central bank instead(besides, I have already mentioned in a thread here that I resent the FIAT currency. People have mocked me for it, however the FIAT currency is also at fault here, even more so)?

I keep hearing people say things like what you are saying and it baffles me. How hard is it to understand that you cannot find a job when there is no job? That's like telling a starving person that they just need to find food, as if they would not have already, if it was available.

Well, I'm telling you that it's not as you say it is. Certain sectors lack jobs.
And this affects certain parts of the society, that are not really well educated, or even not skilled to find work as a construction worker, electrician, hair dresser, or something that involves a learned trade.
Even if so, how do you propose we bring about more jobs to absorb the unemployed?

They are demanding fairness.

And what exactly is fairness, according to you?
Tell me, because I have no idea on how to actually interpret this.

They do not want our government to be a bank for big corporations.

And what exactly does this mean? Referring to the bail-out of the banks after the crisis hit the scene? Well, under normal circumstances, the government probably wouldn't had intervened, however the circumstances were not quite what they should have been.

They do not want their tax dollars to go toward corporate money lending. It's that simple, kilic.

Are you referring to the one time event of the bailout?
Or are there things that I don't know about. It can be, I can't really know.