Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.

[Greatest I am]

Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action.

Democracy, Religion and Secularism all talks a great line of freedom and equality for all. Our Western democracies and Religions preach this wonderful line; while at the same time forcing our women to walk behind our men and denying women true equality. True democracy and religions are then a sham. We have no working model, political or religious with true equality. We all contribute to this hypocrisy.

We point the finger at the East and their lack of equality with scorn, as we should; while ignoring the fact that we in the West are not doing as we preach or walking our talk. We men have yet to give our women the justice and equality they deserve. Our women have also been delinquent in their social duty by not being more forceful in their demands for equality and justice. Women lead the list of those that have historically been oppressed, thanks mainly to religions, and democracies and religions needs to acknowledge this real fact. They must enact affirmative action to be seen as working toward a truly just society.

It is time for men and women to recognize that what women have suffered enough discrimination and denigration without just cause long enough. We as societies have enacted affirmative action laws for the oppressed before. I think we should admit to the fact we have truly oppressed women and initiate new laws to move equality for women at a faster pace.

Both men and women have ignored basic social justice and we should all be ashamed of ourselves. You will feel this shame if you, male or female, have an ounce of social responsibility. We have a duty not only to ourselves but also to the coming generations.

Justice delayed is justice denied. Justice demands that we act and our women and female children are crying out for equality.

Affirmative action for women should be placed higher our social justice agendas. Both at the political level and religious level.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

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[thesummerqueen]

Affirmative Action is a band-aid.

[Shell B]

I don't feel oppressed in any way. Hm.

[Anomalocaris]

Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action. .........

Both men and women have ignored basic social justice .......

Do you agree?

No. Your notion of justice is neither the only one nor clearly the best one.

[thesummerqueen]

This country has extraordinarily powerful women, and I'll damn well say that it's only women who hold themselves down anymore by not stamping out the fuckers who are really the problem: the ones who are trying to control reproductive rights, etc.

Unfortunately they have women on their side.

[Anomalocaris]

Actually, I think whether there are powerful women is not a good indication of whether the society overall is repressive of women seeking similar opportunies as men. Example of Indira Gandhi of India and Benezir Buttho of Pakistan comes to mind. Both rose quickly to the zenith of their respective male dominated society and political systems. In fact the first female prime minister in the modern world was elected not in a relative liberal nation where women enjoyed comparatively closer to equality, but in extremely male dominated Sri Lanka 20 years before any female head of state were to appear in any western democracy.

In some highly patrimonial traditional societies, it is paradoxically easier for a few highly privileged women to rise quickly to the very top carrying the mantle of successors to an esteemed political dynasty, than it is in an open western style democracy where women has to compete on her own account against men.

[reverendjeremiah]

wait, so God says that i can buy a little girl for 10 sheckles ($2.66 American) and she can be my slave forever?

Im just wondering those people who say "god doesnt change"...well, if he doesnt change then I definitely like the exchange rates for todays modern money. a full grown adult male slave for $13.32 american?

God truly is great and generous.

[Greatest I am]

Affirmative Action is a band-aid.

Then continue to bleed all over yourself.
Nice social conscience.

Regards
DL

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I don't feel oppressed in any way. Hm.

This is not about you.
Think global, not local.

Regards
DL

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Democracy, religion, women and equality. Justice demands affirmative action. .........

Both men and women have ignored basic social justice .......

Do you agree?

No. Your notion of justice is neither the only one nor clearly the best one.

See anything else at work in a meaningful way?

Regards
DL

[thesummerqueen]

I'm not fucking kidding. I've been having this argument with people since I was 12 years old. You want to fix the problem for everyone - not just women or minorities, you start at the ground level. The problem is, people want immediate results - they don't want to make it great for their kids so their children can benefit from a more equal society where all races and genders can vie for whatever they like. They just want to do for themselves. That's what affirmative action does.

[Greatest I am]

This country has extraordinarily powerful women, and I'll damn well say that it's only women who hold themselves down anymore by not stamping out the fuckers who are really the problem: the ones who are trying to control reproductive rights, etc.

Unfortunately they have women on their side.

Yet you just said no to something that would bring you a bigger boot.

WTH.

Regards
DL