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Occupy wallstreet demands
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RE: Occupy wallstreet demands
(November 20, 2011 at 10:41 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, there is a job shortage, which is why there is unemployment.
It's also not always tied to your education, which explains the unemployment of educated people in my country.
As I said, what I'm trying to find out is where exactly the employers see a surplus, and where a demand.

They do not see a surplus, kilic.

Quote:Well, that's not what I said. Lower paying jobs are generally demanding people of fewer experience, or fewer qualifications. Like you can't be the CEO of a company just with a bachelor's degree.
People who seek work in their respective sectors often have to start somewhere, and move up from there, if their trade actually offers such an opportunity.

What happens when you go to school for six years, get out and your trade has collapsed? Because we are seeing so many useless college educations now, there is a problem with this, if you educate it, jobs will come, idea.

Quote:Well, that's what we have in Turkey. However, small businesses also hire enough as to fulfill their demand. Unless there are more people who start up businesses(which is also a risk, as there is the risk of the business going downhill...).
Again, here, how do you propose the government helps here?

Yes, there is a risk in starting a small business. Right now, in many areas, it is not a risk, it is a given. The government doesn't need to help. It needs to STOP helping.

Quote:I know. But I just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same stuff. Complaining against banks isn't really productive, though. Banks do not force you to accept loans. And people are depositing money in those banks, so.

In the U.S., I would say roughly 50% of my transactions have to be made through a bank or they cannot be made. I cannot stay at a hotel without a credit card. I cannot rent a car without a credit card. I cannot buy a house without involving a bank, in some way, even if it just to write a check.

Quote:I did not say that all skilled workers actually have a job. I already said that certain sectors have surplus of people that work there.
It's not like they're not hiring him even though there is a place for that job.

Then what is your point? These people are protesting because there are no jobs, despite their educations, etc.

Quote:What exactly is the federal government doing wrong?

Again, overextending its reach. We have prohibition, corporate bailouts, etc.

Quote:We have a centralized government(meaning no individual states or autonomous regions), so I don't know how this would differ if the states and federal government would handle this any different.

It differs in that one state can legalize gambling and have a booming casino business if the federal government does not have laws against it.

Quote:Well, that's what the US government is all about. Capitalism does not allow for state owned enterprises...However, that's not what you're talking about, is it.

No, that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about small government, small businesses, back to basics kind of stuff.

Quote:You mean the lobbying that the corporations have running in America?
Well, lobbies do not just exist for corporations, they exist for many things, so I suggest that you outlaw these aswell(which would actually benefit my country in more than one ways). Even without the lobbies, corporations will always have some sort of a hand in the government, since corruption cannot be halted, and politicians are in one way, and the other, tied to corporations.

It has not always been that way. People are protesting widespread, blatant corruption spoonfed to the masses. Pissing and calling it rain?

Quote:And this should have probably sparked an investigation by the supreme court.

There were "investigations," carried out by government offices, if I remember correctly.

Quote:On what level, to be exact?

What do you mean what level?
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Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by paintpooper - November 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by paintpooper - November 18, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 9:10 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 9:22 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2011 at 6:37 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Zen Badger - November 19, 2011 at 6:51 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2011 at 7:02 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Anymouse - November 21, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 22, 2011 at 1:06 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 1:28 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 22, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 21, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 1:57 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 21, 2011 at 10:29 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Skeptical_Nurse - November 21, 2011 at 1:59 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 2:02 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 21, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Autumnlicious - November 21, 2011 at 11:59 pm

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