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Occupy wallstreet demands
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RE: Occupy wallstreet demands
Quote:They do not see a surplus, kilic.
Meaning, they have a demand for labor, but they're just not hiring?
This does not really make sense. You need employees to keep a business(that is in need of employees) running.
They will hire enough to get things to work. No less, no more.
If there are more people that they need, they'll hire the ones that they deem to be fit for the job.
Quote:What happens when you go to school for six years, get out and your trade has collapsed? Because we are seeing so many useless college educations now, there is a problem with this, if you educate it, jobs will come, idea.
Well, that might also be the case, in which case you need to seek a counsel at school before applying to a university. Indeed, there are many useless college degrees now, but I personally wouldn't try for a college education if I knew that such a degree wouldn't bring me a good job(like african-american studies and etc.).
This of course is the fault of the parents, wheras the parents in Turkey are heavily involved in the education of their children, and generally seek counsel from the school and other people who know things before sending their children to university.
And I also said that not all education can bring you a good job, that's why I did not opt to go for a degree in history although that was a primary interest of mine and chose to go with my father's wishes of becoming a chemical engineer.
Quote:Yes, there is a risk in starting a small business. Right now, in many areas, it is not a risk, it is a given. The government doesn't need to help. It needs to STOP helping.
Meaning that people just refuse to invest their money into something they can profit from? Perhaps they do not have the money to do so.
Most people who want to expand need to use loans for that. Starters, even more so. And I think that simply because you think that every business will take a hold, won't make it that way.
Quote:In the U.S., I would say roughly 50% of my transactions have to be made through a bank or they cannot be made. I cannot stay at a hotel without a credit card. I cannot rent a car without a credit card. I cannot buy a house without involving a bank, in some way, even if it just to write a check.
Well, do you not have master cards which directly access your reserves in the bank account? Why use a credit card for that? Either you have the money to pay for that service, or you don't. IF you don't, then simply do not use a credit card.
I personally use no credit card in anything, and prefer to handle everything in hard currency.
Quote:Then what is your point? These people are protesting because there are no jobs, despite their educations, etc.
Well, if they had a job, they wouldn't be there in the first place. Indeed, they may, or may not have a degree or a license in something. However, I don't have any knowledge on what kind of education these people have to actually benefit from it. You cannot expect a sociology student to find a job as quickly as a law student(lawyer, prosecutor etc.). Or find it at all, like what are sociology degrees good for anyways, but in research?
Quote:Again, overextending its reach. We have prohibition, corporate bailouts, etc.
So you mean that the government is doing something illegal. So where is your supreme court?
Quote:It differs in that one state can legalize gambling and have a booming casino business if the federal government does not have laws against it.
Well indeed, but does the (US)government have any laws against gambling?
And personally, I think that gambling only serves to impoverish people even further(and thankfully, gambling is prohibited in Turkey).
Quote:No, that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about small government, small businesses, back to basics kind of stuff.
Well, that is too much of a simple solution. I don't think how it's going to work out.
By small government, do you mean small government interference(en general), or small government as like in regional government with no federal interference?
And small businesses have already passed in America. Here, they work fine, yes, but America is home to many large, international corporations. Do you think of shutting them down somehow?
Quote:It has not always been that way. People are protesting widespread, blatant corruption spoonfed to the masses. Pissing and calling it rain?
Well, I'm not saying that people shouldn't do anything, however is this the fault of a particular(the current) government, or is it a part that is inherently within the system?
Quote:There were "investigations," carried out by government offices, if I remember correctly.
There isn't much to investigate, actually, since it was public.
Quote:What do you mean what level?
The link to corporate money. I know that they finance elections and etc...
But other than that, their only ties to corporate money could be in the form of taxes, at least on legal terms.
Or are they affiliated in one way or the other with your politicians?
Either in legal terms, or in terms of corrupt behaviour, like bribes and etc?
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Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 9:02 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by paintpooper - November 21, 2011 at 5:49 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 9:04 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by paintpooper - November 18, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Minimalist - November 18, 2011 at 9:10 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 18, 2011 at 9:22 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 1:35 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2011 at 6:37 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Zen Badger - November 19, 2011 at 6:51 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2011 at 7:02 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Anymouse - November 21, 2011 at 9:55 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 21, 2011 at 11:36 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 22, 2011 at 1:06 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 1:28 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 22, 2011 at 12:05 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 9:49 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 12:09 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 21, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 1:57 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by kılıç_mehmet - November 21, 2011 at 10:29 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Skeptical_Nurse - November 21, 2011 at 1:59 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 2:02 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Phaedra - November 21, 2011 at 5:01 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2011 at 12:57 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Jackalope - November 22, 2011 at 6:13 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Shell B - November 21, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Mister Agenda - November 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by theVOID - November 21, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Occupy wallstreet demands - by Autumnlicious - November 21, 2011 at 11:59 pm

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