RE: [Quranic Reflection]: Quran vs Hadith- why the Hadith is false
January 6, 2022 at 12:02 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2022 at 12:07 pm by R00tKiT.)
(January 6, 2022 at 10:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (Bold mine)
I refer you to this, posted earlier by Winter:
Quote:(106) Whoever disbelieves in Allah after their belief—not those who are forced while their hearts are firm in faith,1 but those who embrace disbelief wholeheartedly—they will be condemned by Allah and suffer a tremendous punishment.
Boru
I think you're aware by now that Winter prays 3 times a day, unlike any other Muslim on earth. This means you really have to take whatever this loon utters about the Qur'an with a grain of salt.
The verse above contains the label "disbelieve" which is unfortunately a mistranslation, the word in the original verse in Arabic is actually kafir:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir
which precisely means someone who rejects Islam despite being convinced of its truth . Not all apostates fit this definition, they rejected it maybe for sincere reasons.
(January 6, 2022 at 10:59 am)Angrboda Wrote: Did God tell anyone anything that is in the Quran or the hadith? No. So it's not God doing anything, is it?
I am just pointing out that there is nothing inherently immoral about God telling someone not to do something.
(January 6, 2022 at 11:24 am)WinterHold Wrote: God is not "attempting" to compel; he is stating a fact. When I tell someone "if you cease to eat you'll die"; or "if you drown you'll suffer and die", I'm simply stating a fact.
So, if one doesn't believe in God; they will end up in hell. It's not a threat but a fact.
God did threaten with punishment in the Qur'an:
Quote: "God bids you beware of Him (in other translations: And Allah cautions you against His retribution.), though compassionate is God to His votaries." (3:30)
http://2pm.co/demo/2500/3/30/
And no one really can complain, OFC.
